Go see V for Vendetta...

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The Obvious parallels between the movies' story and present day America are hard to miss.
I think it is important to take this movie as a waring sign in movie form. A form that today's youth can manage.
I never see kids at the skatepark reading newspapers if you know what I mean. There is a strong suggestion in the movie about the 9/11 terroist attacks on the World trade Center in NYC...
In the movie a horrific "act of terrorism" was blamed on innocent people who were labeled terroists and executed, when in fact it was the very government of the country that did this act on its own people, to stir up fear, and take away civil liberties. The similarities between 9/11, Saddam, and the patriot act are brutal. Go see it, think about it with what is going on today here in the USA, then register to vote.
Posted March 19th, 2006 by the dire wolves at our heels
I saw that last night. I am inspired. No matter where you lie on the political spectrum you have to admit that this movienot only parallels real life, it imitates it(with British accents)

Please go see it! More so if you are skeptical.
Posted By: babiesarentreal on March 19th, 2006 at 11:47AM PST
Ed, everyone knows about this already!

Anyways, it's an action movie not a propaganda film. So don't think TOO much into it.
Posted By: anthony on March 19th, 2006 at 12:27PM PST
Anthony,

I'm not thinking that I "discovered" anything.

I just was amped by the movie, and think that kids should look deeper than the "action movie" exterior.

There IS a message, and it is NOT just an action movie.

Propaganda is what we are fed daily on the network news. I would see this as reverse-propaganda.
Posted By: ed on March 19th, 2006 at 01:07PM PST
Ed,

It's interesting that you say this because the movie is actually supposed to be a modern day remake of 1984, which is so easy to confuse with the modern day lately that there really is no difference. I have not seen the movie yet but i intend to. And about Anthony's "it's just an action movie" comment: art does exist in hollywood, you just have to look at things a little closer than "just an action movie."
Posted By: Mario C. on March 19th, 2006 at 01:32PM PST
fuck america it sucks but where else is there
Posted By: jesus on March 19th, 2006 at 03:15PM PST
Mario C.

Yes! It does have some heavy "1984" connections.
That is a great book, and has a lot to do with what is happening here today. That is why it is good to see this movie. Because nobody reads! I know kids would rather see a movie than read a George Orwell book, so all I am saying is check it out!
Posted By: ed on March 19th, 2006 at 05:32PM PST
But how can we know our votes will count for anything?
Posted By: Susan B. Anthony on March 20th, 2006 at 08:54AM PST
Biafra for president!
Posted By: Winona Ryder on March 20th, 2006 at 08:56AM PST
1984 and V for Vendetta are super close, and theyre both extremely frightning to imagine as reality. Voting on the whole is so unreliable. If you base everything off of a majority vote, and 51% beat out 49%, you still have 49% of the people who are pissed off. Government needs to quit voting on everything and they need to start making compromises that reflect everyone's intrests, thusly, largely eliminating the huge percent of the population who never wanted bush in the first place, from crying injustice and government corruption. sure, no one could likely predict the bullshit thats come with the Bush Regime, but if there were more power to the PEOPLE we could do soemthing about overtly religous and retarded people who are trying to push there own agendas on the people of the United States.
Posted By: icantadd on March 20th, 2006 at 10:21AM PST
I will tell you all.

If enough people actually went out and voted, we wouldn't be dealing with Bush at all.
They are relying on Americans laziness!
All the polls indicate that the MAJORITY of people here do NOT want War or even like Bush.

His approval rating and Congress' is below 34%
Yet they get RE-elected 90% of the time!

This is crazy! It is because no one votes.

It is enough for you to believe that they don't matter.
BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT!
How great is it for them if all the youth in America don't think their vote will count, and do go out and vote?

IF everyone did finally get out and vote AND there was some FOUL PLAY (which has OBVIOUSLY happened in the LAST 2 elections) then the people will RIOT.

And that is what they are afraid of.
WE can take back the country, because there is more of us.
Posted By: ed on March 20th, 2006 at 12:08PM PST
seeing it tonight
Posted By: D on March 20th, 2006 at 03:54PM PST
I am from Australia, and do not really understand why your voting participation is so low. I heard the participation % is around 50%. That seems crazy to me. Dont get me wrong, things are not rosey around here, far from it, but by memory i think our participaiont is around 90%. You guys should register, vote and give a damn, because you are the police of the world and your chief sucks.
Posted By: anibal on March 20th, 2006 at 08:29PM PST
why are we not rioting already?
Posted By: e2 on March 20th, 2006 at 11:13PM PST
i saw the movie and it's based on an adaptation of a comic book originally written by Alan Moore (its not an remake of 1984)but as this shows, the whole government taking over civil liberties ain't no new thing (1984, brave new world, etc).The movie was definitely a step in the right direction with movies like goodnight and goodluck and syriana, hollywood is realizing its potential as a voice in our community and a forum for social commentary. Although I think the protagonist's solutions to the problem were a little naive and impractical (if someone killed bush, or any other administration heavy, they'd just be replaced by someone just as bad or possibly worse)and I wonder what the british think of american movies depicting the destruction of their landmarks, especially in view of their recent terrorist attacks.
Posted By: Beartard Fooser on March 20th, 2006 at 11:43PM PST
atleast there is 1 smart guy in the US, his name is Ed.
Posted By: Lasse on March 21st, 2006 at 12:12AM PST
Very interesting Beartard Fooser!

I wonder how the british will see this movie?
Posted By: ed on March 21st, 2006 at 02:24AM PST
great great movie
Posted By: D on March 21st, 2006 at 03:49AM PST
anibal is totally right, we are the police of the world. when a conflict arises, whos there to step in ? the us. but, unfortunately, where were we during the bullshit in rwanda? no where. but when the middle east gets a problem? BAM! were all over it! why? cause its a fucking benefit to those in power! consider this, if youre a fuckin oil tycoon, and theres a situation where if you get involved, youre going to free up tons of oil, and make tons of money. of fucking course youre going to get involved. but when its an issue of moral conflict, such as rwanda, fuck it, because we get nothing. we need an unbiased leader, someone who goes from nothing and rises because of WHO THEY ARE, not because of what there father gave them. the basic problem is this though, yeah its really cool to talk shit about injustice as a teen, but when youre finally able to vote, what do you do? NOTHING! people need to start actually doing something instead of just talking. people get lazy and think they mean nothing when really,one person can do a lot. for fucks sake, look at Martin Luther King jr. what i want to know though, is what we can do as 17 year olds to make a difference since we cant vote?
Posted By: icantadd on March 21st, 2006 at 10:10AM PST
As 17 year olds your job is to be informed.

All I hear about is how dumb American kids are in comparison to the world.

17 year olds can prove this wrong by learning about what is wrong with our system, stop being fed lies through TV, and when you turn 18 and voting time comes, be there like a good citizen and VOTE!

Another way is available to Anyone who spends money:
VOTE with your DOLLARS!

MONEY is the ONLY thing that GIANT Corporations listen to, so vote for or against them by supporting or not supporting them. That is how change happens.

If you hear about Wal-Mart being LAME to its employees, STOP shopping there! If you hear about a company who gives profits to the poor, or to a cause you agree with, start buying their product.
It is so simple. Shop politically.
If you dedicate yourself to this truth, you will see change.

The Gap clothing stores totally changed their sweatshops in China because of public boycotts and bad media attention. That is change! Now Gap uses only fair labor, and you don't have to feel like a scumbag if you are wearing their stuff...
Posted By: ed on March 21st, 2006 at 11:18AM PST
ED,

I think you should discover something.
hmm...
Vendetta:
n. a feud in which members of the opposing party murder each other.

That sounds nice. Please don't bother. Id rather push my plank and mollify in some crispy wave sliding, than watching V FOR VENDETTA.
Posted By: b on March 21st, 2006 at 01:11PM PST
i thought the movie was very good and a great ignitor for thought. ed the thing about shoping politically i have been telling every one this for years and every one says go fuck yourself. most dont realize how much just were your money gose will help. most of americas youth needs to start showing the rest of the world that there not stupid. we can take back the government its for the people not the corporations. ed would you in support of free media post veganporn.com in the knowledge is power section its a news website not porn. for vegan porn go to vegporn.com.
Posted By: loser on March 21st, 2006 at 05:10PM PST
Dear "b",

Just to be clear. I have never suggested that anybody take the dictionary definition of the word VENDETTA literally. I would never suggest killing anybody, I don't even eat meat!!!

I am simply suggesting that people get out and vote, and that I liked the movie.
Posted By: ed on March 21st, 2006 at 05:24PM PST
People seem to get real riled up when it comes to politics!!!
Posted By: ed on March 21st, 2006 at 05:25PM PST
holy shit! toymachine got political on yo' asses
Posted By: count on March 22nd, 2006 at 02:50AM PST
is there a way to find organizations dedicated to change in our area? are there any websites or phone numbers to call? i live in small city on the outskirts of oklahoma city thats small minded and im really interested in trying to change things.
Posted By: icantadd on March 22nd, 2006 at 07:06AM PST
Ed,
Why not? That is what the movie is entitled, correct? Usually,don't the title and work have something in common? Well, i guess before i say anymore i will have to see the movie, then some serious debate will go down. Which is a proficient demeanor in styling an equitable outcome. I am thankful to live in this beautiful country and hope that flowers and pretty rainbows are around the corner. Thank You for your replies Ed, lets contort in some serious wood pushing.
Posted By: b on March 22nd, 2006 at 12:35PM PST
Dear "b,"

I agree!

The ability to discuss whatever we want is great! America is still a great place to live and work. I just don't want it to get any worse than it is getting.
The Patriot got renewed! If it gets worse, for all I know, we may be arrested for discussing politics on the Toy Machine website!

But I am still not down for killing. That is where it turns into a movie...
Posted By: ed on March 22nd, 2006 at 01:33PM PST
for anybody who is interested in scoping out some of the 9/11 "conspiracy" go to youtube.com and in the search type "revisited" and hit search, scroll down and click on either 9/11 revisited or 9/11 revisited (updated). I haven't seen the updated one but the original is pretty good. Really makes you think.
Posted By: broken footed cat on March 29th, 2006 at 07:15AM PST
actually here:


9/11 revisited

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xs51xKHUnNs&search=revisited

9/11 revisited (updated)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PWgSaBT9hNU&search=revisited
Posted By: broken footed cat on March 29th, 2006 at 07:16AM PST
the updated one is a lot better
Posted By: broken footed cat on March 31st, 2006 at 01:56PM PST
hey Ed, i went to see it. what do i win?
Posted By: Nathan on April 12th, 2006 at 03:17PM PST
you should also read farenheit 451
Posted By: eros on February 24th, 2007 at 08:39AM PST
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